Grusch, Fravor, and Graves testify before House Oversight Subcommittee
Former intelligence officer David Grusch, retired Navy Cmdr. David Fravor, and retired Navy Lt. Ryan Graves testify under oath before the House Oversight Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs. Grusch states that the U.S. government operates a long-running classified program to retrieve and reverse-engineer non-human craft.
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On 26 July 2023, the House Oversight and Accountability Subcommittee on National Security, the Border, and Foreign Affairs, chaired by Rep. Glenn Grothman (R-Wis.), held an open hearing titled 'Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency.'
Three witnesses testified under oath. Retired Cmdr. David Fravor described the 14 November 2004 USS Nimitz 'Tic Tac' encounter. Retired Lt. Ryan Graves described what he characterized as 'effectively daily' UAP encounters by his squadron during 2014–2015 work-ups off the U.S. East Coast. David Grusch, a former Air Force intelligence officer who had served as the National Reconnaissance Office representative to the UAP Task Force, testified that he had spoken with approximately forty witnesses regarding what he described as a long-running, classified U.S. government program to retrieve and reverse-engineer non-human craft, claims he had previously conveyed to the Intelligence Community Inspector General as a protected whistleblower under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act.
The hearing produced no documentary disclosures but is widely considered the most consequential modern open congressional event on the topic.
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